Rockstar’s latest hit, Red Dead Redemption, has brought us plenty of laughs, as we mentioned in an earlier post where we met out dearest friend, the Donkey Lady.
Turns out that we’ve got plenty more laughs to look forward to. We’ve got another video featuring horses gone bad, and some screenshots of what appears to be a genuine Easter Egg, and not a glitch.
Before we go there, however, I want to voice my disapproval with Rockstar. Red Dead Redemption was supposed to be an amazing game. This was something I was looking forward to. And with Rockstar’s generally run-of-the-mill titles, looking forward to a Rockstar game is a fairly rare thing for me. This was a title that was full of promise, looked amazing, and really had me hoping.
The final result didn’t turn out like I respected. Don’t get me wrong. This is a fun game. When it works. But it doesn’t seem to ever work. Red Dead Redemption has been so full of bugs for me that one has to really question whether or not Rockstar really play-tested this properly.
But, moving on, let’s change from hating Rockstar’s bugs to laughing maniacally at them again.
We have one more video from the Glitch Department to show you. This is actually kind of up in the air as to whether it’s a glitch, or if there’s a more sinister side-story that we’re unaware of, but it appears that your horse lives a crime-fighting life of his own. That’s right. When you’re not looking, your horse will go out and catch bad guys, hogtie them, and deliver them to you.
Either that, or he’s aware of John’s secret gay BDSM fetish and is only trying to help. Whatever the case may be, it definitely has a slight creep factor going on.
Next we have screenshots of what is definitely NOT a glitch, but a legitimate Easter Egg. Turns out some prankster at Rockstar decided to sneak this little gem into the game.
Yeah. That’s exactly what it looks like. It’s a zombie.
Why is there a zombie in the desert? Why is he alone? Why is he just casually looking at John? Why has John not done the right thing and incapacitated the brain of the undead beast on sight? So many questions the zombie nerd in me will never have answers to.
Dude, get over yourself. I have played this extensively, along with many friends, and while we have all encountered glitches, they have not been constant or gamebreaking. Simply reloading a save will do. I am no fan boy of Rockstar. In fact, I am not a fan of the GTA games at all, but your completely ridiculous claim that “The final result turned out to be a total piece of crap” is just obsurd. You wannabe game journalists have such an unfounded sense of entitlement. You feel like a big man bashing a company that does not care what you think?
@Vin,
Actually, it’s a company’s responsibility to care about what we, as customers, think. They want to sell as many of their respective product as possible, and in order to fulfill that desire, the company has to make sure that is is free from any kind of defect (barring intentional “mishaps”).
So yes, any company is going to care about what the consumer thinks. The only reason they are not going to care what they think is when the consumer misuses the product. But I don’t think just playing Red Dead Redemption counts as “misusing” it.
Also, “sense of entitlement?” Pot, kettle, etc. None of us feel like “big men” bashing any companies. Not even when we bash Ubisoft for having such ridiculous PC DRM do we feel like “big men.” It’s just voicing an opinion. Joe’s opinion is that Rockstar has released a subpar product with so many unintentional glitches. While hilarious, it also almost feels like they don’t care enough about their product to *avoid* these sorts of things.
We here at The Gaming Vault, however, value your opinion and will still try to remain unbiased in our articles.
Unless it’s a Michael Pachter article. We hate that guy.
@Vin, they should care what we think. Not just the journalists, but the entire gaming population. We are their customers, after all. We do spend about $50 USD a pop on their products, usually buying them in hundreds of thousands per day.
They make a lot of money off of us. The least they could do is kind of cater to us a little bit, and actually give us a product worth playing.
Seriously, no gamer should ever accept this amount of glitches in a game. Not in this day and age. Today, we pay groups of 20+ people to sit around and play games nonstop for $8.00 an hour to test the game before it’s released. There is simply NO way that Rockstar did a proper test with this game before releasing it. Whether this was a managerial oversight or simply laziness with the developers, this sort of thing simply isn’t acceptable.
If you own a copy of Red Dead Redemption, I would seriously consider demanding a refund. The game is defective. You own a defective product. It’s the manufacturer’s job (or in the case of digital media, the developer’s) to ensure that you have a properly-working product, by either producing a proper version of the game and replacing it for you, or giving you a full refund.
Where I come from, I don’t pay for crap. But that’s just me.
@Joe Pomerening, Thanks for the response, Joe. There is no question that this game was not tested as extensively as it should have been. The game has frozen up on me a few times now for no apparent reason. I was having a drink in Chuparosa last night, when after the first shot, each shot the bar tender poured was actually being poured on the bar surface, but the shot glass was magically being filled up. The other night while in multiplayer, I experienced an issue where I was invulnerable to dynamite.
My negative comments toward you were not really appropriate, and I do apologize (just to you, not that Kyle dude), but I still do not feel that this game is crap. While there are a number of issues with it RDR, in my opinion, it is still a very good game. The fact that I keep playing through it and continue to enjoy myself doing so is enough for me. I do hope that they patch it and fix the multiplayer issues.
Oh, I’m not sure why I put your name in quotes. Chalk it up to anger fueled comment replys.
Rockstar has the best glitches, the first time I saw buffalo one of them flew up in the air a few hundred feet and landed safely on the ground. Random and hilarious
There’s never enough time to fully iron out a video game Joe. Do you understand how business works? Deadlines must be met, delays do happen but eventually it has to get out to the consumers. Anyone can write an article, but believe me not everyone can visualize a game and make it happen.
@You’re DUMB,
That’s odd, I don’t remember many Zelda games with glitches (or many Nintendo games at all, come to think of it). A game is done when it is done, and not before. If one is released with the engine not optimised, it is usually the fault of the publisher for wanting to get it out the door as fast as possible. Only Rockstar is at fault here, however, as they publish their own games. If Nintendo can spend the time waiting to perfect their games, then Rockstar can, too.
But clearly, they’re not doing that, and Joe has a right to complain that the product he’s bought from Rockstar is defective. I hate people who criticise others for complaining about bugged games – stop apologising for the games companies! You expect a chicken burger to not have any bones in it, and you will complain if it does. Why can’t people expect the same when it comes to the expensive games they buy?
@Telquessir, Personally I think it comes down to fanboyism. People like something so much they eventually come to identify themselves with said product. Hence an “attack” against said product is an attack against them as a person.
The same thing happened when Duke Nukem Forever was finally cancelled. A lot of people said it was “tragic” that 3D Realms was shut down, but in my opinion it was about time. They were being paid to do a job they didn’t do, which is a blatant middle finger in the face of the consumer.
@You’re DUMB, so are you saying that every game should be Daikatana if the developers can’t fix it in time?
If you want to talk business, then let’s talk business. In the business world, if a developer doesn’t have enough time to get their product working before the ship date, they have three choices.
1: Push back the release date. This is not a bad thing, and nobody will think any less of you for doing this (unless you’re the Duke Nukem Forever team).
2: Cancel the project. This is the second worst thing you can do, but in some cases, it’s necessary to just pretend that the idea never existed (see StarCraft: Ghost as a perfect example).
3: Sell the product as it is. This is the worst thing you can do. It creates a horrible experience for the consumer, and only diminishes your own reputation as a developer.
Rockstar went with the worst option available to them.
Wow? That’s it? Those are the terrible, abominable, horrendous, reprehensible glitches that you experienced? Hell, those aren’t even your videos. WHereDaBootz should copyright his material.
FAIL.FAIL.FAIL.FAIL.
@heflys,
“terrible, abominable, horrendous, reprehensible”
Nobody here used any of these adjectives.
Gee, you don’t say!? I guess S-A-R-C-A-S-M is difficult to grasp around these parts.
@heflys,
Sarcasm doesn’t quite translate well on the internet.
I keep pushing for sarcasm tags, but nobody seems to provide.
@heflys, No, those are the funny glitches in the game. This article was written for the sake of comedy, to point out some of the lesser glitches that might make Red Dead Redemption a somewhat more amusing experience.
HOWEVER, there really isn’t an excuse for massive amounts of glitches in a game, especially a game created by Rockstar! They could have simply delayed the game to iron out some of the kinks and I think no one would have cared, simply because it’s, well, Rockstar…
We know RDD has gotten tons of good reviews, but we, as consumers, should be allowed to express our own views and go against popular opinion. Joe said RDD is still a good game, it’s just broken, and he’s not satisfied with the final result. There have been several instances of copies of RDD freezing and simply crashing because of these bugs, and to provide proof, here’s Yahtzee’s twitter stream:
http://twitter.com/YahtzeeCroshaw
And another thing: Rockstar is a big boy, it doesn’t need you defending it.
And I expressed my opinion on this article, and was called a “dick” by one of contributors to this site. If you guys don’t want negative reactions to articles that initially claim a game is “crap” (this was edited out later), or dissenting opinions in general; you guys might not want to have a comment section. Just saying.
@heflys, Kyle’s remark was completely uncalled for and has subsequently been deleted.
@heflys,
I was also reprimanded, if it makes you feel any better. :3 I’ll refrain from insults in the future. Poor conduct, if I may. Just saw an overwhelming number of negative comments and I’m like, “Jeeze, you guys, it’s just one dude’s opinion.”
Really, though, we do appreciate comments, but while you commenters are entitled to your opinion, we are as well. The opinion of one writer is not what everyone here thinks.
@heflys, WHereDaBootz is well aware that we are linking his videos on our website. I told him myself ; we were the first site to promote these to the public domain.
@heflys, WhereDaBootz owns copyright over his material the instant that he shoots it. We do not deny this.
However, Rockstar may try to claim copyright of the footage inside the videos, and YouTube may try to claim copyright of the video file, itself. There’s actually a LOT of copyright going on here, however none of it is being infringed upon.
Why the fuck do people dwell on the stupidest shit? none of the glitches in Red Dead are gamebreaking, or even game altering. who gives a shit if theres a cougar man or a donkey lady? these glitches are 1.) vastly amusing, and 2.) completely irrelevant to your stupid ass article. why is it that every article that contests the amazingness of RDR, (this game is phenomonal in my opinion,) goes something like this…
ZOMG!!!! HOW DARES ROCKSTAR MAEK A SHITII PEES OF SHIT GAEM LIKE THIS! IT R HAZ 2 MANEE GLITCHZ, IT R BROKENZ!!!111!!
god, stop writing articles and go jerk of to nude pictures of Soap Mactavish you knob.
@Evan, That all depends on the individual copies. Some have experienced crashes, some have met the Donkey Lady.
Did you read past where he called it a broken mess? It is a good game, when it works. But his copies (and my own for that matter) is glitched up the arse!
[edited by Michael] (Watch yourself in future Kyle.)
U mad!?
@Kyle Gaddo, So you reply to my comment with a mature response, then flame me with an insult. You “value” my opinion, and then call me a dick? There is your sense of entitlement. The fact that “Joe” wrote that “The final result turned out to be a total piece of crap” is just obsurd. It is a pretty damned good game, with certain shortcomings, yes, but overall and fun and engaging experience. It is the responsibility of the creators to create just that. In this age of game technology, a game of this scope is going to have an issue or 2 to be worked out. I’ll agree that it does not seem to have been tested on a very wide scale, but that does not merit comments such as these. I hope your site fails and is forgotten along with all of the meaningless drivel you put here. I cannot believe that you have readers, and will not be clicking any links to this site from N4G ever again.
Oh, and I am a dick. Fuck you and Michael Pachter.
@Vin,
To be fair, I posted the insult first and then later replied to your comment. The timestamp for the insult clearly says “1:30 am” and the timestamp for my comment is “1:53 am.” At least on this end.
Also, you keep spelling “absurd” wrong, and it’s really bothering me.
No need to be a Negative Nancy.
Seriously, though. You’re up in arms over a video game that you didn’t even create. You’re defending the honor of an inanimate object of which you had no piece in. Sure, the creators could have poured their heart and soul into this game, but what difference does it make to you whether some stranger on the internet liked or disliked a game because of certain things?
It doesn’t.
@Kyle Gaddo,”it’s a company’s responsibility to care about what we, as customers, think. They want to sell as many of their respective product as possible, and in order to fulfill that desire, the company has to make sure that is is free from any kind of defect (barring intentional “mishaps”).”
In your words, it does make a difference.
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@Vin, Kyles particular remark above was uncalled for and has been removed.
@Vin, Why’s my name in quotes? It’s my real name. :(
You know what other game had glitches? Fallout 3. You know what happened with Fallout 3. It one a bunch of rewards. You know what game is still amazingly fun despite said glitches? Fallout 3.
Stupid people writing stupid articles is one of the worst offenses to my intelligence. I’ve played this game for hours and hours and I’ve experienced ONE glitch. And it was hilarious. I’m losing faith in mankind…
@What_an_IDIOT, Joe says right in the article that the game is fun. Only that for him, the glitches have prevented him from enjoying the game properly. It’s good that you’ve only had one glitch, but that doesn’t really change the fact that for Joe, the game doesn’t hold up.
@Herman S. Lilleng, Not only that but RDR had WAY many more glitches than ole Fallout 3, and that the critical reception of a game does not in any way take away from it’s flaws.
won* Damn homophones
Flame war much? I have to commend Joe for actually coming out with such a statement and putting his name on it. Its this kind of thing that actually puts this site over many others. The writers here are allowed to actually have an opinion beyond their reviews.
The donkey lady and cougar man was fun, but constant crashes and disappearing NPCs tend to put a hamper on the experience. This has happened to my copy to the point of almost making the game unplayable.
@William Ashby, Thank you.
Everyone member of staff on this site is an independent entity, and they speak only for themselves.
I personally consider Read Dead Redemption to be one of the best games I’ve played since GTAIV, and I absolutely love Rockstar’s style of game-making.
There’s no denying there’s a heavy number of bugs in this game, some of which clearly have been game-breaking for people. Rockstar will patch these problems in time.
Hope you continue to stick around and add your opinion to our regular news stories and articles, William.
nothing could be made perfect with all you fuckin people puttin your 2 cents in. rockstar is gonna make millions not matter what you find wrong with the game,and hey who gives a fuck.i go to mcdonalds they dont always get my order right,but guess what? im still gonna eat there.so quit crying, when is the last time you did something perfect with no mistakes. tell what you need to do get some fuckin ass and stop puttin so much in your time in the negitive of things life is to short faggot.
@one time, So… If life is so short and we shouldn’t spend so much time in the negitive of things”, why are you complaining about other people’s opinions on the internet?
Yes, no one is perfect, except maybe Valve employees, but when you’re the developer/creator of a certain type of product, you’re expected to be able to deliver a product of a certain quality. If you don’t deliver, people are going to be a bit miffed, especially if your previous product was pretty great.
Why would you continue going to McDonald’s if they keep getting your order wrong?
I’ve put about 40 hours into the game and havent run into any problems at all. What version are you playing, xbox or ps3?
I must say thought that I lost a LOT of respect for RockStar for doing such a shoddy PS3 port in terms of graphics. That’s just plain lazy.
After this heated topic, I either need a hug or a stiff drink.. Check please..:)
22 hrs of play time and NOT ONE GLITCH!!!!!!!!!! THIS SITE IS WHACK!!!!! THE GAME IS SOO SICK.
@your_WRONG, No, it’s not. It just means you have a game that isn’t bugged.
@your_WRONG, this is not how science works.
lol….the glitches add to the fun of the game. they are random occurrences. bird ppl, cougarman, donkeylady…..all add that felling of “ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE” while playing. that is crucial in a open world game ….rdr has a mind of its own. glitches like those make me happy that i can see new stuff always….like REAL LIFE TRULLY RANDOM EVENTS——( THE GLITCHES)
@you_WRONG, if real life was anything like this, I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t leave your house at night.
@Joe Pomerening, hahah good point….my point being, its not a game breaker, and IMO it adds to the game. I love not feeling confined by limitations the programmers set. A glitch is a break in the boundries as far as im concerned….any1 grasp what im saying???
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I can’t help but be entertained by all the people posting as if any criticism of a videogame is a personal attack
@Norlick, It’s called fanboyism. We all do it. I’m a vehement defender of Nintendo. :p
@you_WRONG, No we don’t. And Joe doesn’t represent the views of the entire website. Joe’s articles on RDR are his own opinions, and he should be allowed to have different opinions than everyone else and not be chastised for it.
@you_WRONG, I am the owner of this website and administration of this entire website, and I consider RDR to be one of my favourite games this year.
So no, we’re not “saying bad shit” just to get noticed. Some of us are at E3 right now covering exclusive and unique content for our site as it happens. Exposure is not an issue for us.