Evening Topic: The Validity of Cheating

Posted by Jens Erik Vaaler - January 29, 2010 @ 18:01

Evening Topic: The Validity of Cheating

I’ve been playing a lot of Bayonetta lately, a game that’s freaking  awesome by the way, and the ridiculously overpriced items available in the game store got me thinking about cheating in video games.

I think cheating is the kind of thing we’ve all done at least once in our gaming careers, but are a bit embarassed to talk about. It could be anything from a quick level skip, enganing noclip, pulling amazing weapons out of your ass to just plain old invulnerability.

So our topic for tonight is good old fashioned cheating.

- Do cheat codes, or cheating in general, make a game more or less fun?

- Have you ever cheated in a game? In what way?

- Is it cheating to exploit something within the game to, say, net you extra gold or lives?

3 Comments on “Evening Topic: The Validity of Cheating”

  1. It’s funny you should mention Bayonetta, as it technically has a cheat code of its own, that allows you other means you gain access to really rare items. The catch? They’ll cost 1,000,000 each…

    - Do cheat codes, or cheating in general, make a game more or less fun?

    No. People should play fair. I think cheat codes at this point in the game are a bit of a thing of the past. Achievements and Trophies have gone a long way to eliminate them from games, which is a good thing.

    “Have you ever cheated in a game? In what way?”

    Rarely, but hey… who hasn’t done the sound test cheats to get Super Sonic? =P

    “Is it cheating to exploit something within the game to, say, net you extra gold or lives?”

    Cheating is cheating. Unless you get something by valid means, it’s always cheating. Whether that’s acceptable or not is up to the player, but I’ll always respect someone who got something legitimately more than someone who didn’t.

  2. Jassim Happa says:

    Generally these are my thoughts:
    Bug cheats – fair enough, part of the game.
    Cheat codes – in single player, no problems. In multiplayer, if all parties agree, then no problem.

    - Do cheat codes, or cheating in general, make a game more or less fun?

    More fun; absolutely. As long as it’s not done in secret and everyone’s okay with it. It can bring in a new dimension to the game.

    - Have you ever cheated in a game? In what way?

    Play in mode “X” (e.g. Big head mode). Unlimited Ammo. Infinite Health. Skip to level X. That sort of thing. I have never, and will never use cheat software to get better stats in an FPS for instance.

    - Is it cheating to exploit something within the game to, say, net you extra gold or lives?

    No if it’s a bug or design decision. Depends on the game and the exploit obviously, but for most part, fair game.

  3. Kyle says:

    The way I figure it, if the designers actually put the cheat in the game, it was there to be used. Like the Konami Code for Contra back in the day. Sure, not using it allowed one to test their mettle through the game with three lives, but for inexperienced players, it was a godsend so that they could maybe make it past the Jungle Level and into Base 1 and get the awesome music that accompanied.

    Other games like Goldeneye had a great set of cheats where you could use the cheats, but you couldn’t use cheats like All Guns or Infinite Ammo to complete levels–you had to do those without cheats. Some cheats were fun, like Paintball Mode or DK Mode and made the main game or Multiplayer a lot more interesting or fun.

    As games have gotten more sophisticated, I think programmers are more aware of how the system works and can put cheats in and take them out at their leisure, unlike games of old where exploiting the system meant getting a turtle shell just in the right spot and jumping on it for an insane number of lives.

    I think now that people are more aware of cheating, it’s getting a lot harder to do unless the programmers deliberately put a cheat in the game. Getting more money in some way or extra lives becomes something the players has to discover because the programer wanted them to, not because the player is beating the system.

    However, things like Action Replay and GameShark are full-blown cheating, actually messing with game coding to give the player an advantage rather than putting them on an even playing field (or a disadvantage).

    Some cheat codes can make games fun, while others can very much detract from the fun experience itself.

    And of course, there’s always the classic “real life” cheating of such items like unplugging your opponent’s controller and things like that. :P

    But cheating, no matter how you look at it, is cheating.

    I remember the game I cheated the most at…

    Turok: Dinosaur Hunter. That game had so many cheats…

Leave a Reply

Sponsors

  • alex's beekeeping services 95350 mardi gras float storage facility annabelle fuhrmann laila ali divorce bostitch stapler parts crankshaft splitting plate and splitting cylinder jester bracelet shoals indiana news saftey injuries electric pet friendly lodging ashville north carolina turquoise parakeet scientific name sickle cell anemia and folic acid thunderbolt prek fleming island how versatile is a sew-in weave big train spiced chai 3.5lb bag nonprofits chartered in dc paul esposito abbotsford how was al qaeda started hippocrates regimen i supplier press releases b athens heritage nursing home valenti hanley crooks ky clowns in chicago hotel portobello bach latico doubletake creel bag medium how to patina faux finish millersburg ohio jay mccullouch children's barbers in sw6 vb6 preventing multiple application instances renting powerr tools miike inglis arm fcat daily math problems spontaneous natural conversation ideas kansas city royals aug 2007 schedule vakantie reis lang felicity hong kong belle chasse high respiration artifact breville citrus press claire ogley near 2008 antibodies are created by negotiate learning goals haunted lighthouses around the great lakes aprill aire 2400 ts16949 clause 7.4.1.2 post traumatic stress disorder research georgette bouman compare and contrast essay rubric gamer psychology rules humor waggoner ranch job breathe carolina pictures crosman 2210 co2 .22 onlie games list elevated folic acid orthodontic coloring pages francis coppola claret quattro micro sodium cesium iodide child modeling florida intel r wireless windows xp hatching annual killifish our god saves by paul baloche san felipe church in albuquerque nm webmd office evolution of the homo sapiens low carb almond rosemary green beans reviews 07 altima se brown roux recipe pictures of womb during birth knotts family band willibald sorger font deletion tools gerhardt schermuly where did the fruitcake lady die seaworld promotional code ati dampers for 6.0psd pictures of teacup applehead chihuahua disprin warfarin atrial fibrillation thea schrader wooster scott pictures u niggers white power wikang pilipino mga salitang pabalbal karol from peekshows trace elliot ta 100 catepillar standby whiplash injury settlement pilgrims covenant church site map maguire hopper labelle hotel papal audience tour consequence of ordinary corby callaway chen shin trials 4.00-18 car head restraints laws extended stay hotels macon gerogia area somerset spectator nj where to purchase bobby lyle cds nadine o'flynn commencement requirements carbo electric conshohocken pa clip art astrological sign no trespassing ribbon corrective chiropratic airbus a380 engine zorro character summaries 1990-1993 torch weeders bologna illustrators of childrens books moen disassemble faucet valve body zero emission coal metal chemical detox program celestial navigation bible cumberland maryland ibew companies function kidneys 2010 jelsoft enterprises ltd misfits lyrics hey alberque olympic salinas pr affiliation code of cbse board schools patty bond underneath are phantoms totally exposed 5 mikhail meaning of name vente dvd concorde bordeaux rae thomson maori cara kennedy lung cancer the ruins of castillo in mexico kabbalah and snake taylor mali autobiography procurement exchange barclay spurgeon woolworths first store vw water leak rear mwindows suzy shier shopping public domain bluebonnet photo telephoto lenses for canon s3 is mapa mundial invertido the orgin of shit plans for bagel slicer linda youngs remember wenn stories bluff erosion control repair waupaca riding club riddell plastic football helmets deffinition of last names hanna montana has got nerve enclosed trailer st john two collapsed lungs video firewire output t v schedule clifton collins jr bp plant in beaumont tx sundae parties what are some cures for epilepsy ruth osmond greytown sat subject test results wegner 5000 receiver st emilion cheval noir 2003 fishkill ny obitiuaries honda shop boardman ohio tamales and dozen javier rodriguez minguez 2008 international it expos in barbados florida scholarships mackay convert from milligrams to liters tires pais texas upholstered headboard paatterns bear youth compound bow marseille ajaccio route voile craze guitars northstar express va appeal secrets albert humphries born 11th january 1923 okaloosa county public records criminal ginseng tea recipe bono california saony handycam dcr-hc28 angela kalt afp treaty europe france 2007 mcdonalds wadena mn zarefah bellydance in germany juan riveria tying knots for bracelets reading books aloud online thousand arms the morning of destruction palmer pletch books sattelite radios on sale or rebates scissors sisters appeal ireland linda arv cure pharmaceutical conspiracy pinky dowdle nederland colorado new cars chemotherapy fertility chop transistor temperature afton swenor facebook workgroup disappeared from network lauren wolfe parchment family website django web framework windows cindy patterson barrie substantia nigra corpus striatum agitation irritation mood disorder preakness handicap carrie underwood cowboy casanova music video congress investigate cp disneyland girl allan kolker olive rabies virus in humans epidimiology villanova university home innocent sorrow man prepare concrete floor to stain beading supplies maine siget mision cristiana elim cours de consignation maritime gilbert 25621 manuel cota jr construction debris shredder pro addition and subtraction word problems worksheet henrys great alaskan restaurant anchorage biotin products for fingernails landscaping brothers nursery in quincy illinois felted chairseat pattern flight officer admiral keygen for winzip 11 margaret b williams llc landrum sc 1978 pontiac gran prix qualifications to become pres of usa doughnut jim talib kweli some kind of wonderful webhosting message boards mary did you know medium rang driver updater pro full young rascals spooky mp3 tyvek repair expanded horoscope readings mink aire w3c filename standards crown investments corporations ellipse new cd anabolic steroids synthroid pravachol lotrel rohypnol richest men turn of century list door visors review for honda element jason voorhees dunks for sale emerald empire reading council animenfo com rurouni kenshin reminiscence starwars funny pictures workflow optimization gospel saxaphone lessons wrong perception of men misa camo free retro baby announcement template ministries to street kids buy isopropyl nitrate aaron lewis bong hits crafts itty bitty albums experienced precision machining luca rossi jacket